This week we chat with Revolver coach Molica Anderson. Co-hosted by Tulsa Douglas and Luisa Neves.
This episode, Share the Air chats with Molica Anderson. She talks about her upbringing playing sports, and how she began playing ultimate. She also discusses her coaching career spanning multiple sports, and then gets into the story of her time with Revolver.
Molica talks about starting as a chiropractic for Revolver, and details how she transitioned to becoming their coach, and talks about what it was like during her first season and during the pandemic. Finally, she talks about Revolver's work with Ultimate Impact. Tulsa and Luisa also talk about how they research for episodes.
Share the Air is hosted by Tulsa Douglas and Luisa Neves. It is planned, edited, and produced by Tulsa Douglas, Luisa Neves, and Tim Bobrowski. Share the Air's music is by Grey Devlin and Christopher Hernandez. Share the Air is sponsored by the National Ultimate Training Camp, VC Ultimate, and the Centre for Applied Neuroscience.
Tulsa: [00:00:00] Welcome to episode eight of Share the Air. We have a lot to share with you today. So let's jump right into our listener question.
Luisa: [00:00:13] We have a listener question from Amy Z. Her question is what's your strategy for doing research on the guests before you have them on the show? Just how far back through their Twitter posts are you scrolling.
Tulsa: [00:00:23] Okay. How far back are we scrolling?
Luisa: [00:00:27] I think it depends on the guests. We've very different research methods for I think each guest.
Tulsa: [00:00:34] Do we share details? Can we share details?
Luisa: [00:00:36] Yeah. Often. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
Tulsa: [00:00:40] So like, for Randall, we both know her and we've played with her and I've been coached by her and I played against her. So a lot of it for that one was like, from our memory and things, we wanted to talk with her more about, but we did have to do some scrolling to figure out like what year she played where, and those kinds of things.
So like I went through Carlton alumni website to see what year she played and what years they went to Nationals, all those kinds of.
Luisa: [00:01:08] A lot of trips through folks is LinkedIn. So if have a LinkedIn and you're a guest, it's incredibly helpful.
Tulsa: [00:01:15] Yeah. Keep it up to date for us.
Luisa: [00:01:17] Keep it to date. I think I've hit a number of graduate program websites that look like they were last updated in the nineties to get some information on some of our guests.
Tulsa: [00:01:30] Yeah a lot of USAU, team archives and the hall of fame website stuff was helpful for Suz and Dom.
And for episodes like Molica's for people that we haven't met personally, we really tap into our networks and who knows who, that we can text and ask them to text someone or something like that. But also definitely like Googling and finding what articles like Molica, there was an Ultiworld article that we read, that kind of thing.
Luisa: [00:02:00] For one, one guest, I I texted a mutual friend, texted her partner for current updates.
Tulsa: [00:02:07] So basically our sleuthing abilities are getting stronger and you can't hide stuff from us. Thank you to Amy for this question. And as always, if you want to send in your questions, you can do that on patreon.com/sharetheair.
And now let's get into our conversation with today's guest Molica Anderson.
Bio
Luisa: [00:02:47] Our guest today is Molica Anderson. Molica started playing ultimate in college at USCD and later played with American Barbecue while pursuing her doctorate in chiropractic. In 2013, Molica began working as the sports chiro for both the MLU San Francisco Dogfish and the men's club team in San Francisco Revolver.
During her time working with Revolver, they have won three club national championship titles and made consistent appearances in the national finals. In 2018, Molica stepped into the role of Revolver's head coach. In 2020, she was named as an assistant coach of the SF Falcons in the Western ultimate league, and plans to coach again this season. Outside of ultimate, molica works in healthcare technology. Molica, welcome to Share the Air.
Molica Anderson: [00:03:30] Thanks friends. Thanks Luisa, thanks Tulsa. Thanks for having me.
Tulsa: [00:03:34] So to start, we would love to hear your background in sports, what sports did you play growing up and then how you got into ultimate frisbee.
Molica Anderson: [00:03:44] Yeah. How much time have we got, this is like a whole bio. My whole life was sports. This is great. Um, I guess it started when I was a child, And my dad was a powerlifter and I loved it when he made those noise, like crazy noises when squatting heavy.
So I was kind of around, you know, sports and activity from a young age and they had one of those little inflatable toddler pools in the backyard and would put, you know, like six inches of water. And I loved it. Like they could not get me out of this little inflatable pool in the backyard in, you know, Southern California.
So they're like, okay, you know, I think she'll like the water. She likes swimming and they weren't wrong. I absolutely love swimming. And so at the age of nine, they put me on the local competitive swim team. And that was my first introduction to sport. And who knew that it was mentally possible to stare at the bottom of the pool and swim in circles for over a decade of your life.
But that's what I did. Um, so swimming was, yeah, my main sport growing up, But remember I was a teenager during this time, right. Like a preteen. Um, and so every time I would get in trouble, my coach would say, okay, go, go to that side of the pool and go swim a 200 yards of butterfly and I kept getting in trouble.
So then I was like 300 yards of butterfly, 400 yards of butterfly, mind you like right now, I can't swim more than like 75 yards of butterfly in a row. So he was having me do almost, you know, like a third of a mile, all butterfly. So guess what? I became a really good distance butterflier um, so that was my event for a long time was distance butterfly and the individual medley, which has all four strokes. And then, discovered team sports, playing soccer, my senior year of high school.
Tulsa: [00:05:28] You just started your senior year?
Molica Anderson: [00:05:30] I always wanted to play soccer, even as a kid. Like my dad played it, my uncles and my, you know, my mom's brothers all played it, but they never, that was like the one thing that they put a barrier up there. Like no soccer, no soccer, but all my friends played either soccer or basketball during like that winter season in high school.
And I was like, I want to play. I have like the worst FOMO. You'll find that out very soon. So I'm like, okay, well I'm either gonna play basketball or soccer. And I, I was decent at basketball, but I was like four foot six for a real long time growing up and so soccer. And I was like, you know what, I'm just going to do it.
And that was my first time, like not being like, not following all of them rules and that listening to my parents. And then all of a sudden they're like coming out to my games and being supportive. I was like, if I knew you're going to be supportive this whole time, I would've played soccer way earlier. I still love soccer.
So that was my first introduction to like team sports, field awareness, that type of thing. If you asked me in all through high school, what my least favorite sport was, I would've said ultimate Frisbee. I like did not like it at all. I could not throw the Frisbee. It would leave my hand and like beat gravity and like go down to the ground immediately. And you can imagine like a bunch of high schoolers who can't throw the Frisbee, you know, you've seen games like that. And so, and we would kind of play it for like our dry land workouts for swimming, but I really did not like ultimate frisbee, which is so funny. Cause it's such a big part of my life now.
Um,
Tulsa: [00:07:01] Wait, so you didn't start playing until college.
Molica Anderson: [00:07:04] Yeah I had made a new best friend, my, at freshman orientation, and it was Angela Wells who coaches San Diego Wildfire and coach, you know, San Diego Bloom for the WUL, still my best, best, best, best friend to this day. And, she had played ultimate frisbee in high school, so she was already on the team and that was right after UCSC had won Nationals. So she played her freshman year, sophomore year.
I was thinking about maybe sticking with water polo and maybe not. So I overlapped a season of water polo in a season, my first season of ultimate frisbee. Cause you know, my best friend told me to, to come out. I was fine. I was just like, ah, this is the one sport I did not like in high school. And now you're getting me to go out to tryouts, and tryouts were so fun.
I remember just like so much support. I've never had that level of competition plus the support. I know I was like, kind of brought up to think okay, you're competitive. So you have to like be competitive with everyone. And that doesn't necessarily mean that you can support them at the same time. So I was like, I was a crazy competitive, aggressive child. I think I've since then kind of uh, matured it a little bit.
Um, but, uh, so then I remember it was like, um, a huck drill and I was, you know, I was running and it wasn't a thing to like that my brain was like, okay, maybe layout. I think just from like swimming and diving into a pool, it was so natural. Like, oh, the Frisbee is right there. I'm just gonna jump, dive, grab it and like go in.
And, like the eruption from the returners, I was like, I was like scared. Cause they were so excited. And I think from that moment, I was like, I guess I like ultimate Frisbee now.
Like, what is this? Who am I? Um, so that was my long intro into ultimate Frisbee.
Tulsa: [00:08:48] I love that story. Okay. So you started playing ultimate in college officially, and then when and how did you move on to club.
Molica Anderson: [00:08:57] I tried out for American Barbecue and that was kind of like the stretch team I was going for. And I made it and it kind of like took me back. Like I didn't think I was going to make it. So it was like kind of already mentally planning to play for some of the other teams I tried out for and I decided to play for them.
And I've like never played for a different club teams since. So I was like, I like the same. I'm going to stay with them. Like it was, it was so great. Nice to have a community through grad school and just, you know, a community, I never not lived in Southern California. So all of a sudden I have this family that, you know, is a silly name of American Barbecue, but you know, we, I got to get playing time.
I, it was my first time playing coed. I really liked my teammates and we got to go to Nationals twice. And I would say the highlight from American Barbecue, I can't remember what year it was now, but it was the Nationals that were in Frisco, Texas. And I would love if any of the people who play that Polar Bears Team is listening to this because we were the 13th seed going into Nationals.
And Polar Bears were the number one seed. And we came out in pool play and we were down, I want to say at least three points and I could like name the D line right now. It was like me, Sarah Carnahan, James Sheridan, Stephen Chang,
Bishop. And I want to say Cielo, and I want to say Beanie, um, Sabrina, I can't remember be Sabrina Lee.
And we just started knocking off those break points and the, the coach was like, stay out there. So we ended up coming out to beat them, but then of course we were like way too happy. And we played Seattle Mixed afterwards and got crushed gosh. So like, I think we still came out 13th, but it was like a big highlight for us.
Tulsa: [00:10:40]
So how did you first get into coaching then?
Molica Anderson: [00:10:49] I got really into coaching high school swimming. So I was like the head coach for a local high school for both varsity and junior varsity. And like, it's so many kids, I think we had like 150 kids part of the swim program. It was a massive program. So I was waking up to go in, like my car broke down. So, or like I just never fixed my car. It broke down and then it didn't get fixed as what happened. So, and it paired well, cause I was on the triathlon team. I was biking from my, where I live near my grad school to the high school to open up the pool around 5:00 AM in the morning practice from 5:30 to seven, 7:30 AM bike back, go to classes all day, bike back for the evening, evening practice.
So I was, I did pretty well on track my triathlon team, I think I to bike everywhere. Um, so I really liked, you know, and I think there was a, I, you know, I had a history of, I was captain of my cross country team, captain of my swim team. And I really liked leading. And so, and I loved the high schoolers, I loved coaching. I was really confident in my coaching skills going into swimming because I had swim so long and there was like something about like still being able to beat most of the kids on the team that they, I kind of had that respect right off the bat. And like this high school love me so much as a swim coach that they asked me to also be the head water polo coach and, did really well ended up being a, the first time I think the school had ever made an appearance for their women's water polo team in like the CCS championship. So that was really excited about that. I'm like, okay, there's, there's something to like, I didn't have to be the best water polo player to be like a decent coach.
Tulsa: [00:12:21] Yeah. I totally agree. You don't have to be the best player to be a good coach. So next I'm wondering, can you talk a little about becoming a chiropractor and how you got involved with ultimate teams as the sports chiro?
Molica Anderson: [00:12:35] I went to Palmer West Chiropractic College and it's known for their sports chiropractic program. And they have a really good kind of like sports council there, where even as a first year student, you go to sporting events and as a third and fourth year, you get to start doing like the actual treatments of the athletes. You know, I was going to running races. We went to the Sea Otter Classic, which is this massive biking, race that's road biking and mountain biking.
So I got to see, I feel bad saying I got to see. I was in the right place at the right time in order to treat people who had like, gnarly issues, like crazy fractures, bone sticking out everywhere, you know, like, and just from my lifeguarding background, I, I was a first responder. So, you know, I know how important it is to, you know, stabilize the C spine, if there's a potential neck fracture, that type of thing.
So I really was getting into the sports and I was thinking, I think it would be pretty cool to travel with like a professional ultimate frisbee team.
And at that time that didn't exist, you know,
Luisa: [00:13:37] Yeah.
Molica Anderson: [00:13:37] And I was thinking, you know, I just, it would be so cool to be able to travel with the team. And that was that wasn't really something that chiropractors did. Most chiropractors wanted to private practice, you know, treated patients that way. So I remember graduating, I did my residency at the VA hospital, so pretty, pretty far from, treating athletes.
And then after residency, I went into working like, like at an orthopedic clinic. So it was a separate clinic, but I got to partner with like orthopedic surgeons, physiatrists medical assistants, and they would send me there kind of tough sports cases. And they're like this person's supposed to get the surgery, but if you can get them to a place where they feel this functional and feel limited pain, then you save them a surgery.
And I was like, this is so cool. I'm getting such cool cases. And then I remember like the next year, or like that year, it came out that San Francisco Dogfish was going to be a thing. And I had played on a winter league team with Rocky Beach, who now runs Ultimate Impact, just like a Revolver alum.
We were on the same winter league team and I had like, and he's okay with me saying this. And that's why it's just not HIPAA. I like helped him with his ankle on the sideline. And it was his friend that was like the team manager. It was Woody, uh, for Dogfish. And I was like, Hey Rocky, like you, you think they need someone to help them with their injuries?
Like, can you put in a good word? So I like officially applied and I remember another chiropractor applying for it. And I remember that he had done like training at Colorado Springs at the Olympic training center. And I was like, there's no way I get this job. But then they like took both of us. And because, you know, I had a history and ultimate frisbee knew some of the players I kinda got to like, be at more things and suddenly I'm the only chiropractor for the team.
And suddenly I'm traveling up the team. And so it kind of just evolved from there. And I got to make it my own little job with Dogfish. And I remember I'm pretty sure it was like Evan Boucher, who was like, Molica, would you consider doing this for Revolver? And I was like, if you'll have me, sure.
You know, like that type of thing. and it's funny, cause I think working and be able to travel with a team was my five-year goal out of grad school. And then I hit it in six months. So I was like, oh, got to get some more goals here.
Luisa: [00:15:50] So were you playing with American Barbecue at the same time that you started working with both Dogfish and Revolver?
Molica Anderson: [00:15:58] Yeah. I have this thing where I don't take things off my plate. I just keep adding on and I'm always like, what other thing can I add onto this plate? But yeah, there was a lot of sprinting in between fields, especially at Regionals and things like that. Like I remember finishing playing, and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go check on the guys, see how they're doing and lots of running back and forth. But it was really tough in 2019. To not practice most of the season. I think I may have gone to one practice for American Barbecue and then played a whole day at Sectionals. And that was just like taking a day off of Revolver practice. So they, they survived without, uh, they barely survive. They were like, definitely like, Mom's gone, let's go crazy. And I was like, oh my God, practices, what happened at practice?! I don't know if I can skip a day of practice to go to Sectionals again. But, and then during regionals, I remember. Finishing with Revolver and then sprinting over my dad would like, hold my bags for me as I would like kind of try to get my cleats on while running and try to squeeze in a couple of D points with American Barbecue. And then as soon as that would end, like sprint back to the fields. So that was a little much, and I feel like it probably did a disservice, especially to both teams. You know, it's one of those things where like, you're going to do both, you're not going to do it either well, so maybe it's time to cut something out, but I'm convinced I can still make it work somehow.
Luisa: [00:17:19] Cool. So you started as the chiro for both teams. And that's seems to have been it's whole own journey alone. But what else were you doing in that time? Cause it's, it's not really common, right? You go from team chiro to being the coach. So what were those five years like for you?
Molica Anderson: [00:17:35] Yeah, six seasons. It was a lot because I did, you know, Spiders and Revolver, and that would kind of overlap in season. Dogfish and Revolver for two years. And then I also did two years of flame throwers after that, while also doing Revolver while also playing American barbecue. And like, there was never, there was never a moment where I'm like, you know what, one day I want to coach this team, I was so happy being the team chiro. I am passionate about treating musculoskeletal injuries. And all of a sudden I get to do it with a team. All of a sudden I get to do as a team of a sport I love and a team that I love the human beings on the team.
I spent so much time with them, being the team, chiro I'd want to hang out and watch them play type of thing. So it was such an ideal situation. So I really, I think just because of the love of it, just immersed myself into it, which meant not just talking to the players about their injuries, but sometimes I'm like a good outlet to talk to if there's any frustrations. I was at practices too. So now I'm hearing about all the plays. I know what the defenses are and I'm like, if I'm going to be here on the sideline, I might as well make myself useful if no one's getting worked on or being diagnosed, that type of thing. And yeah, I'm going to yell and echo the defense. I'm going to yell at player if someone's going to go run deep. So it was this natural progression towards being more than a team chiropractor. I think the players would back me up. They would ask me for like little things, like, oh, what was that player doing here? Cause they also knew that I played for a team. So, I think I had, even though my title was team doctor, team chiropractor, the person who takes care of these musculoskeletal injuries, I think because I was another resource for other things, it started cultivating this culture of okay, well, Molica can contribute this other way and she's willing to, and she's happy to. So I think that in hindsight, I was almost a little apprentice under Mike Payne. And then Martin, up until 2018 and then it was like 2018 where it was a rough loss in San Diego against PoNY. And I remember being like, it was just so heartbreaking and players on the team were at this junction in their lives where it's like, okay, it's now I'm going to go get married or I have kids, or maybe it's a good time to retire or like do other things with my life. So after 2018, there was kind of like a mass exodus from Revolver and we didn't know what it was going to look like the next year. And bringing back barely double digits and players, you know, like half the roster it's one of those things where it's like, okay, that person's retiring or that person's moving out of the area. Like, it kind of starts this little snowball effect. Like, well, if they're retiring, then I'll retire. Oh, they're getting married and having a baby a baby. I was invited to so many weddings then that next year. Um, and I remember it was like, in the evening and I was hanging out with Sawyer, who's one of the Sawyer Thompson, who's one of the players on Revolver and he's one of my best friends. And we lived right by each other in San Francisco for a long time. And we would always, we would go on walks. So it was like, uh, one of our things that we did, we'd go on a weekly walk and talk.
And so, it was like one of our weekly walk and talks and he was on leadership, with Byron, with Simon and Mar, Jordan, Marcy. And they were all, and , Martin was going to not coach again. So I knew were going to be without a coach. And I knew they were asking other people, you know, if they would be able to coach the team.
And so I brought it up to me, he's like, what would you think about coaching the team. And I was like, you want to ask me, did everyone else fall through? He's like, well, like, think about it. Like everyone knows you respects you. And I was like, well, yeah. I'm totally down. , I would do anything for Revolver.
Like I've been with them for so long. I love them to death. You know, I've been to their weddings and like, I've been to some of them, bachelor parties. And so it's like, I will do anything for the team, but like, make sure it's something that you really want before you officially ask me.
And then I think it was like the next day or next week. They're like, okay. Yeah, we're officially asking you. I was like, okay, let's buckle up. Here we go. Let's do get some planning and stuff. So, um, that's kind of like how it all started. And it was a big kind of transition period in my life anyway, because I had just pivoted from patient care and I worked onsite, at Google through like one medical, treating patients in the building. And there are multiple Frisbee players that worked in the buildings. It was a fun job. And working at in one of the Google buildings is always funny. Cause it's like free food.
You go to the gym with Sawyer afterwards. It was just a fun time. but I got recruited to like a tech company to work part-time as a chiropractor, but then build the app and the clinician experience, for the app and something that's potentially scalable nationwide.
And I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, I love affecting people's lives or like, at least in musculoskeletal health, like one-on-one, but just think of the possibilities of like creating something that can like outlast me that can last thousands or like can help make musculoskeletal like health and advice, more accessible to tons of people.
So I was really excited about that. Join the startup. Four months in it folds and so that whole summer I was looking for a job that whole summer. So it was kind of a blessing in disguise because, my job ended, but now I had a little bit more effort and energy to put it to revolve or granted looking for a job is also, it takes a lot of like effort and energy. I would say strengths were at least being able to recognize like people's like mental, physical, emotional capacity on the team. Like maybe that first year I wasn't as good at the strategic. I would say it was okay with the strategic thing. Cause I feel like that could be kind of algorithmic. You know, if they're running this, then we should run this as a defense.
And we're strong at that. Like that was easy, but sometimes like little like, Hey, if you against this player, cut, do a little juke move than that. You know, like I wasn't good at those fine minute coaching details. But, I think what's going to be really excited about this upcoming season is that Cody Mills is joining the coaching staff.
So being able to partner with him where he's like so good, the X's and O's and I'm more of the, how we feel everybody, you know, I think we'll partner really well going into this new season.
Luisa: [00:23:55] So you had in the, in the past seasons, you were the only coach on the coaching staff. There was nobody else.
Molica Anderson: [00:24:01] Like I could have used like my dad to at least check off who was getting
playing time, like
Tulsa: [00:24:06] Like pass you some water.
Molica Anderson: [00:24:08] Yeah,
I definitely need to water. I can get water so much.
Luisa: [00:24:17] And now Share the Air will take a break to talk about today's Teachable Moment brought to you by Dr. Mandy Wintink and the Centre for Applied Neuroscience.
Tulsa: [00:24:25] This week's Teachable Moment is about team bonding. Team bonding is such an interesting concept. The psychology research shows that some things make it more possible, like having a common goal, dealing with adversity and sharing positive feedback, but what's actually going on in the brain during team bonding?
Well, that's a bit more complicated and not well-studied. One thing worth noting is that connectedness is important to bonding and to success. Our brains feel connected when we feel similar to other brains.
Luisa: [00:24:51] One of the neuroscience ways we refer to this is coherence. Coherence is a synchrony between two brains and can be a way one brain predicts what the other brain is going to do.
Imagine having greater coherence with your teammates. In other words, imagine your brain being able to predict what your teammates brain is planning or thinking. Well, that happens when we spend lots of time together on the field and getting to know our teammates at meals and while socializing. All of these things synchronize our brains.
Tulsa: [00:25:17] The by-product of that synchrony is that we might then react quicker to our teammates actions, which most certainly will result in higher performance. There are many other elements of team bonding and many other elements of neuroscience that likely make this complex experience happen. But being in sync with others is certainly part of it.
Luisa: [00:25:33] Thanks to Dr. Mandy Wintink and the Centre for Applied Neuroscience for this Teachable Moment. Head to www.knowyourbrain.ca and see what courses they have to teach you more about your brain. If you mentioned you heard about them here, you'll get a 5% discount of course fees, and they'll also donate 5% back to Share the Air.
Tulsa: [00:25:57] so I'm curious, going back a little bit, you mentioned when you first started coaching swimming and then water polo, it sounded like it wasn't intimidating or, or scary at all , and then like you jump into this position on Revolver as the head coach, the only coach, what is it, do you think, that lets you take those maybe scary opportunities, but just feel confident doing it and figure it out as you go.
Molica Anderson: [00:26:23] You know what I told those stories and I remember thinking, as I was telling them like, oh, this is setting it up really well, because like each coaching job was a little bit more nerve-wracking I completely forgot so thanks, Tulsa, bringing it full circle. I think I was like, brought up to be like, very confident. My sister and I, and, we're definitely thankful for parents. Cause they, we had high self-esteem. We were confident ladies growing up. But this was like definitely the time where I was like, I'm nervous. It was also like a parent sometimes because I could read the players and when I recognize the players being like Molica, you can be fine like doing this. Or, I could tell that they could sense that I was nervous and giving me that feedback, which almost made me more nervous.
I'm like, oh, now they tell I'm nervous. You
Tulsa: [00:27:07] Oh, I've been there.
Molica Anderson: [00:27:08] Again, I was like, this is just going in circles. But I think also sometimes when, there's so many other things to think about, there wasn't really time to be nervous. And so it was just kind of like, we just got to do the next thing and that's as far as we can think. There were some times at practice where like I would hear some quick feedback the way I take feedback is just, hey, let's sit down and let's create a plan better for next time, that type of thing. But that immediate kind of negative sounding, yelling feedback, I do not respond well to, and that like shook my confidence so much during practice. I think it was one time. I think it was... what tournament is in Minneapolis is that?
Yeah. U.S. Open.
U.S. Open. So I remember we were all out to dinner at U.S. Open and, part of our, roadmap for 2019, because we had a ton of new players. I wanted all those new players to get as much experience, as much hands on the disc, up until like Nationals. Like our goal was not to win U.S. Open, you know, like we ran three strict lines and didn't matter if it was O or D, we just rotate through all those. So everyone almost had equal touches on the disc at Pro-Elite Challenge in Colorado. And like still did decently well. Like I remember listening to some podcasts before and they're like, oh, the Revolver is not going to be a thing this year. You know, they're going to be kind of like out of the picture, but you know, it's the past success does bring in influx of good talent to try out. So we were in an okay position, but it was just like new coach, 13 to 15 new players, and we needed to like teach offenses and defenses as opposed to like, Hey, when we have two new players, they'll be able to pick it up as we go along. We actually had to like sit down and teach. So when it came to U.S. Open, it's like, okay, we tighten up things a little bit, but I'm not going to tighten playing time that early in the season to try to win U.S. Open. Like our goal is to peak at Nationals and that takes some work and going through. And so I don't remember if I actually heard it live, but someone had mentioned the announcers for some live was like, this is the first time, like, Revolver, hasn't made semis at U.S. Open and like, oh, new coach, Molica Anderson. And I remember hearing, or like it was Simon. He grabbed my hand. He's like, I think you're a great coach that doesn't matter to us. And I was just like, don't cry in this brewery. Like I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm one of those things, but then I'm like that. Yeah. I don't care that we didn't semis at U.S. Open, you know, I care that so-and-so on the team is going to their first open Nationals and gets to play in the championship bracket.
Like that was so exciting for them. Whereas past years it was kind of like. Maybe the year, wasn't a complete success if we didn't win nationals. So now it's like you have that expectation kind of taken in with you because of the history of Revolver. But if you like, look at the players, like, oh, it was really exciting.
It's, that was the best most of our players in that team had done and nationals ever. So it's, it's all about perspective, but then like setting expectations in my own head was really hard. It was, it was a rough year, like looking back, I, I made it through and there was like, you know, those poor captains were probably like, playing, but also had part of their mind thinking about, okay, how do we help Molica, who's like, doing an okay job, but still probably needs help on the sideline. So, I mean I've, since that season, I'm just kinda got heads down, like watched film that retroactively be like, okay, I think here, I was thinking about calling a timeout, but then I got too nervous and I didn't call an, at time out.
I need to just like trust So it's, I mean, it's just like starting anything for the first time. There's going to be some growing pains, but, doing, I think as well as we did and with, you know, and like seeing some individuals, players improve or the seasons just like, so reinforcing enough and so exciting for me that I'm just excited to like, go beyond that this, this upcoming season.
Tulsa: [00:30:57] Yeah.
Luisa: [00:30:58] Yeah, I really love that. This space that was left after such a brutal loss in 2018 opened up more spaces for individual success for like individual players. And then new team successes were, were available to you.
Molica Anderson: [00:31:14] And I, I adored all the new players, like they brought something fresh to Revolver that hadn't been seen in a while where, you know, used to having not very high turnover. So you have kind of the same players and kind of in their routine. It felt like a job at some points, like, okay, we're expected to have a nationals finals, appearance type of thing.
We just grind, grind, grind. And all of a sudden we have new personalities and like excitement. And even with some of the older returning players were like, this is exciting. These and like that fresh excitement was just so intoxicating and amazing and infectious. So, it really was a great season.
It was tough. It was so tough at times. But hoping that just like helped build a decent foundation for, for next years. And, I think because of like that happiness we had and like the new players and how the scene, the season at turning out, we had. So many people wanting to be involved with the team in some way, shape or form in 2020.
And so we had, you know, like Zoom workouts, where it was really fun to see people, people team outside of leadership who are willing to help with community outreach, racial and justice equity, workshops for the team and for the Revolver alumni. So it was just this, this commonality and this like, love for this something central.
And so even during like, a pandemic where we were able to see each other in person, they were still kind of like, we could all come back to this.
Tulsa: [00:32:41] Going back a bit again. I think playing time is like universally so challenging and every team struggles with it at some point. So how did it sounds like that was the first season where Revolver did equal playing time throughout the beginning of the season. Is that right?
Molica Anderson: [00:32:58] I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure, like, especially historically from years prior, because we wouldn't lose that many players, it was kind of already known, if you're on D or on O type of thing, there are a couple players that were maybe switch back and forth, but you kind of knew your role on the team pretty early on, because it usually was similar to the role you had played the year previous.
Tulsa: [00:33:19] So how did that decision go over with returners? Was that something that was challenging or you put it out there and people were like, okay, we'll do, we'll do this.
Molica Anderson: [00:33:27] I think one of the things where, because I was such a, a new coach, I was never making like decisions on my own. And even like, now with all this coaching experience I have in my belt, just kidding, it's been like a year and a half. Um, it was like very much like a team decision that we came to that. And I think it wasn't one, one of those things that we just like sprung up on the rest of the team, like, Hey, by the way, we're doing X, Y, Z lines, and we're going to just rotate them naturally through.
It was kind of like, Hey, so, this is what we're thinking, because we have so many new players, we want to make sure everyone's building their confidence. So that way people are bought in. If we need to tighten lines later down the season, they're like everyone helped us get us there and get us to that point because it's true.
Like, I mean, even for injury wise, you don't want to like increase your activity way too much. So for them, and I know that they would trust me when it came to like their physical health, because that's, they knew I was like, that was my forte. I'm like, okay, this is, this is good for you. You know, we're going to have equal playing time there.
Of course, some people that were used to getting more playing time where I'm sure it was a hard, hard pill to swallow, just like, you know, used to being maybe a superstar touching the disc, more, that type of thing. But, I try to make a, welcoming enough environment, especially those returners had known me for so long.
It was easy for them to give me feedback. Which also was like hard as a coach, because all of a sudden you have players that have no problem coming directly to you during a tournament for feedback, and you can't please everyone, and you have to take everything with a grain of salt. So we, we did end up making like a system where it's like, okay, I have one-on-ones with all the captains, the captains have one-on-ones with certain players.
And then kind of like, if things need to kind of be escalator filtered up, it can happen that way. It's not mid tournament. And I'm getting like, and everyone's just being helpful. You know, nothing was like antagonistic or anything like that. Everything was just, everyone was really trying to help me in my first year, which I really appreciate it. Um, but it was, it was a lot.
Tulsa: [00:35:28] Yeah, totally.
Yeah. I don't know if it's happening with Revolver or on the men's side as much, but it feels like in women's club this year, at least my team Brute Squad is facing a similar thing of a lot of people not playing or doing different things.
Molica Anderson: [00:35:41] Right. And it's, it's hard and it's mentally going to be so tough and just know that it's good things can really come from it. You know? Like I remember just being like great, like. Yeah, I'm the coach, but this is also the first year we lose half the team. So I just have these visions, like Revolver doesn't even make Nationals is also first year as a female head coach, you know, like great. Just let's just mix those two, the highlights please. Um, but special things come out of it. And like, at the same time, like I was kind of worried. We'd have the same thing come, you know, a year and a half off. People build new lives , start families and like get new hobbies.
And I didn't want it to be me convincing people to stay in play , no, if you are so much happier doing this or, you know, you feel like your heart's in this place and like, do it and let me support you. Like how can I help you? And, you know, I love you as a human being. But I only want players that want to come and play. So.
Tulsa: [00:36:40] Okay.
Molica Anderson: [00:36:41] Because if you get couple players that you kind of convinced, but they sometimes that like, you can sense like, oh, they don't really want to be there. That that's like also very infectious and can spread really quickly. So I think it was just so nice to having only players there that not just , want to be there, but are committed.
And now, like, you know, everyone wants to take a role in like serving the community, that type of thing. Like it's, it's bought into more than just being a player on the team. Like you're part of something that is, is like a family, you know? And so, I have a feeling, a lot of teams are going to go through that.
Like are team's going to, some teams even exists this year, you know, that type of thing. It's and sometimes it feels like , it's a bad thing, but oftentimes there's something that , amazing that comes out of it and, you know, potentially new young players or, new friendships that you didn't cultivate before, it's exciting.
It's like, it's an excitement from the unknown of what could happen. And you'll be able to look back and be like, wow, that was a beautiful journey we all took together.
Tulsa: [00:37:37] Yeah.
Yeah. That's what I hope. And I think it can be scary and intimidating to feel like things are changing, especially my team, you know, we've done things the same way for a long time and it has been successful in terms of on-field results. And I think people are, it can definitely feel scary to mix things up, but I'm, I'm hopeful good things will come.
Molica Anderson: [00:37:55] Yeah.
I wanted to Luisa: [00:38:04] also jump back a bit and kind of just dig into this part of that first year again, sorry to keep hammering this, this point on, but we can move on after this. Um, but I wanted, I wanted to ask, you've talked a lot about how the team handled it and how the team had to like, make these adjustments and you know, how you fit into that as well.
But I was wondering, what was it just like for you personally? You kind of, you mentioned what one could say was maybe an insecurity before, um, where you talked about those mixing of those two headlines, like Revolver, doesn't make semis and also Revolver has a female coach for the first time ever.
What hesitations did you have? What. What made you nervous, but also what made you feel like I can do this? Like not only does this team have my back, but I'm confident that , I'm the right person for this job and, kind of those announcers who are going to make those sorts of sorts of statements.
You know? Like there were eyes on you. There were eyes on you. There were eyes on your team and what, what was it? What was it that gave you the confidence to just know, like, this is me, I'm, I'm the right person for this job.
Molica Anderson: [00:39:16] It's funny. Cause it coincided at the same time that I was applying for jobs at healthcare tech companies. And I was on the side, studying product management, doing classes, pretending to start my own company. And so I like I had to go to these companies and say like, they didn't have any job openings, posted anywhere.
I was just going there and pitching myself. So there's like a little bit of like, you have to fake that confidence, you know, like, and be very confident yourself. I, I am good for this job, even if inside you're like, Ooh, shoot. Like they could probably get someone with more than four months of tech experience, you know?
Um, and you know, I eventually got there with that and I think it was a lot really similar in coaching in that I don't think in 2019, I ever got to that point of like, I'm the best person for the job, you know? Like I think now. I I'd feel that more. It's like, oh, I didn't even give myself credit for like the history I have with the team.
The supportive, like people and like, you know, I'm, I'm smart. I can figure things out. I've been in leadership positions before you don't necessarily have to be the best ultimate frisbee player to be a good coach, you know? And so I think I could tell myself things internally to at least externally look like I was confident, but of course, like I was like, we might get flattened by a relay team.
Like, what if, we just cannot score a point? What if the AU team is like down, what if defense is like, what if a player talks back to me and everyone hears it, everyone like believes that player, you know, that type of thing. uh, there are so many things, so many insecurities, so many things that made me nervous.
And I think because it's funny because I, it wasn't that I didn't think about like, oh, Revolver is going to have a female coach, you know, or this open team with this very strong history in the ultimate frisbee world is going to have a female coach, I think, because I've just like been a part of the team for so long, I didn't see myself. I didn't foresee that being a thing, you know? You forget that, you're just like, kind of in your team, you forget that other people want to know what's going on with Revolver, type of thing. And so when I started realizing that people were like, oh, that's so great that, you know, that you're a female coach of an open team. And I was like, oh shoot. I didn't even think about the implications of that. Like, I didn't want that much pressure. Cause then I was thinking damn like it. Cause my brain immediately jumped to Oh, now if we don't win a national championship, I failed all of female identifying coaches, which is, you know, like
I was like, am like, I was like, oh geez. And, I know I held in that pressure for the entire season because I remember during quarters when we lost to Machine. And, I have a, a pretty silver lining brain anyway. Cause I'm like, you know what? It'd be pretty cool. If you're a first year coach.
Any kind of Frisbee team, you won Nationals, you know, like I was always like, Hm, this is a possibility, like, what if we just played exactly right. Everyone got confidence. Everyone had equal playing time. We had the right defenses. We matched up well, you know, like I always thought of that as a possibility or like, I always kind of like hoped, you know, like that wasn't going to be our definition of success for that year, but you can't help but want that the big trophy at the end.
But I remember like the second we lost to like Machine, like all that thing I'd been holding in all season inside just came out and like, Angela, you know, came over from coaching Wildfire. She just like held me. And I, I wasn't like, like I was crying, but I wasn't sad. I was just like, oh, it's, it's like the pressure, like, it's not like the pressure is off. Okay. Like, I didn't do it, but I'm still here and it's okay. But then they're like, Hey, by the way, you also need a play You have to play into the championship round, right, right now on that field, I was like, okay, everyone, get it together. We gotta go play Sub over here on this field.
And I'm in, it was like a really weird timing to have to like lose in quarters and then have to play in for Pro Flight immediately after you're like, you just like, feel the weight, but in retrospect, I'm so happy we had that game because you could tell some of like, especially some of the returners were just like so bummed, you know?
Like, and I remember thinking, like, I feel like this is my fault. Like it's because of me, we didn't make it to semis because maybe we didn't make the finals, that type of thing. But, it's easy. Like you see such great players that I've like admired over the years, like be really down.
But all of a sudden we have a player like Nick Murphy, who I actually played with on American Barbecue for a year. And he runs down the pull and it's just like playing amazing defense and like, they eventually get the turn and like Sawyer puts up this like lefty flick up the left sideline. That's like way too far.
And you see Nick Murphy just like running down, it has like a head high out grabs it. And like that moment, the whole T like you couldn't have reminded us that we had just lost against Machine, like I'm, so we got to like get into that moment and end the day on a win, you know, and like end with look at our, you know, our main players and like a lot of the returning players, like, Hey, my body hurts.
I had to push to get to that Machine game. And I was like, yeah, that's fine. Like, that's totally fine. But sometimes like you see some of the returning players not play. And then you're like, okay, is this just a gimme game? Like, no, this game is important. Like we're trying to play for Pro Flight now. And to see some of the younger and newer players step up like that, I'm like, ah, this all worked out so well.
Luisa: [00:44:43] Wow.
Molica Anderson: [00:44:43] Now we're able to show that we're able to mentally bounce back after a rough loss. We're able to show like these younger, technically less experienced players can step up into amazing roles. And be players that really rally at the team, like we don't need your top superstars rallying the team.
You could be, someone who maybe doesn't get as much playing time, but you make that amazing play. You work hard, you grind like, and then the whole team is just like, it just like changing the momentum and like made it such a good tournament after that. So I'm so happy. One of my coworkers, my old coworkers from the startup that went under, ended up coming down with his wife, just to watch ultimate frisbee and caught that play on video.
And I was just like, oh, I'm so happy right now.
Luisa: [00:45:27] Yeah. Yeah, that sounds, that sounds, like a successful 2019.
Tulsa: [00:45:32] Yeah. I feel like that game I've I've heard. Well, I mean, I haven't had to play in one of those yet knock on wood, but I feel like that game going from losing and then having to play that play in game is really challenging mentally. So that's, that's huge that those players could step up and do that for the team because that, like you said, it shifts the whole experience for everyone.
Molica Anderson: [00:45:53] Absolutely. And as a coach or thing, you'd like, that's a hard thing to practice too. So it's like when we're in those situations, you want everyone to get the most out of it. So like, even in some of those earlier tournaments in the season, when the, there were some close games that probably shouldn't have been closed, but we didn't stray from our XYZ form or like whatever plan we went into it, because then that puts like people who maybe have not played a double game point in those positions.
And now it's like, now we can rely, it doesn't have to fall in like a certain five core set of people to like, be the ones to mentally and physically and leave the team and playing time. Like now, like anyone can do it. Everyone has confidence to it. Um, and you know, I was not a perfect coach. Like I can think of a few players, like, Hey, I probably could have done better for their confidence or like pull them aside or like, but yeah, it was hard.
It was a lot of juggling parts and like there were things I definitely, they've done better.
Tulsa: [00:46:49] Yeah, that's natural. That means you're a good coach. Yeah.
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Tulsa: [00:47:43] You mentioned earlier Ultimate Impact, and I think we had to read about this. Can you talk a little bit about what Revolver's partnership or work with Ultimate Impact is like, and also maybe give an intro to Ultimate Impact for people that don't know what that is.
Molica Anderson: [00:47:56] Yeah, Ultimate Impact, um, was started by Rocky Beach. Who's just like an amazing human being who's in the Bay Area. And he loves Frisbee, revolver alum, always giving back to the community and wanted to bring the sport of ultimate frisbee to neighborhoods that maybe had never heard of ultimate frisbee or that type of thing.
So, I mean, the, the relationship with that Revolver had with ultimate impact in the past, it's just kind of like, one of our Revolver alums is doing this great thing, right. It was never like I, maybe I, maybe it was or wasn't, but it was never like an official relationship, but a lot of Revolver players or Revolver alum would go to like their Wednesday practices and just help coach, like show up and help coach.
And it was different over pandemic because, we can't show up to like drive the kids to practice that type of thing or show up in person. So there were like a couple of zoom workouts that I hopped into with my Ultimate Impact. Sure, we'd like do a little, like in one of our Revolver, Zoom workouts, , just be like, hi, Ultimate Impact, that type of thing.
But I'm really hoping in the future, it's one of those things where, I mean, w we are going to have like a designated person who's designated for like community outreach with Ultimate Impact being a part of that. And hopefully just developing culture where. Okay. Who's going to go to the Ultimate Impact Wednesday practices this week.
And have it be a fun thing that not like, okay, this is like a task that we need to do that type of thing. Like let's just, you know, meet on Wednesdays. And, um, and like I've played with like beach tournaments with the kids have Ultimate Impact has been super fun and it doesn't feel like a job. It's just like, okay, you get to hang out with cool kids and teach them ultimate frisbee and that type of thing.
So we're hoping to do more alongside each other in like an official form but at the same time, making sure we're not asking too much from our players and draining mentally. So it's always, everything's a balancing act, you know that, but, um, but yeah, I, I think Rocky's doing a great job and we want to make sure it's something that we don't just like, do things remotely last year and do some things in person this year.
We want it to be a thing where it's like embedded into being a part of Revolver. And this is a continuous, long-term long-term thing.
Tulsa: [00:50:08] Yeah. That's awesome.
Luisa: [00:50:10] I love that. I love very intentionally baking community practice into what it, what it means to be a player on Revolver and not just community within like the Revolver community, but the larger community, in San Francisco. I think that's, that's awesome.
Molica Anderson: [00:50:25] And it's so fun. Like we had, or in 2019, we had two kind of like youth clinics , you know, we just like have Revolver practice and there was like a youth clinic right before with one, YCC team and a youth clinic afterwards. And like, being able to cheer for some of the kids when they like catch something and like a contested disc against a Revolver player was so fun and see them just like excited, like take pictures with some of the players it just like, warms your heart.
Tulsa: [00:50:56] What do you hope is next for the ultimate community?
Molica Anderson: [00:51:00] So many things. I think the biggest thing is that it's just like more accessible and exciting for people of different communities to start engaging in it. It's like easy to, to criticize when, you know, that there are some people putting in a ton of work in the background. So it's like, how can I help to like, create this more of Hey, let's not just be teams, well, let's be ambassadors of the sport. And it's such a cool sport because it's small enough where a lot of us know each other and it's a tight knit community, but it's big enough where we can have a big impact, you know, on a national, international stage type of thing. So I'm excited for this community cause I think there is movement for change and seeing a lot of some of the, the equity seminars and DEI seminars, being put on within the ultimate frisbee community is great. And some people that kind of commit their whole life's work to add it, like let's support them and like follow their lead and pay them to tell us what to do, you know, that type of thing, like let's kind of follow their lead. Because then we don't have to reinvent the wheel every time too. But that's where I kind of see ultimate frisbee going. I think and I think After this pandemic and us coming out of it, a lot of things came to light that weren't that great about the sport and the community. And so I think at least that awareness is the first step. So now it's making steps towards change. But I think that starts with us as individuals and as a team and then making sure we're making changes and leaving our communities in the world, in the Frisbee community, a better place.
Tulsa: [00:52:30] is there any message that you want to share with the ultimate community?
Molica Anderson: [00:52:36] I don't, I don't know. I don't feel like authority enough to share. I just be kind to one another and like understanding each other's position and I do think the community is great and I think we're capable of so much as community and just like making steps towards that while also like taking care of yourself as well.
I think that's also a big thing. Just like seeing so many people these past like year and a half, just kind of like emotionally, mentally burnt out and like, Hey. Let's let's take care of you first. You know, it's like, just as a risk, even as a first responder, you're taught like, Hey, you can't help anyone unless you're good yourself, you know?
And so, I want people to like take care of themselves and I know , we didn't make anything mandatory for Revolver over like 2020, like, Hey, you need to be doing this, this, this I'm like, Hey, you know what? Let's let's survive the pandemic. Let's, let's make it through and like make it through together as a family.
And then, once we're good at that point, then when we know next steps, then we make steps towards that too. So.
Tulsa: [00:53:34] Should we play the game?
Molica Anderson: [00:53:36] Ooh, I'm excited
Tulsa: [00:53:38] Okay. So the game is called 10 Second Stall. So we'll ask you a kind of series of questions and you'll have 10 seconds to answer.
Molica Anderson: [00:53:46] Each 10 seconds per question, or for all the questions?
Tulsa: [00:53:50] Per question
for
Molica Anderson: [00:53:51] I was like oh my God. started quick. If we're going to do this, start the question.
Tulsa: [00:53:54] Yeah. Per question
Molica Anderson: [00:53:55] Real fast.
Tulsa: [00:53:56] Yeah. And so if you hit 10 seconds and you haven't answered that, we say stall.
Molica Anderson: [00:54:01] Sounds good. I think it'd be like, and you have to do 10 burpees and I'm like, oh please.
Tulsa: [00:54:07] Lou, do you want to start?
Luisa: [00:54:08] Yeah. What teammate do you want on the line with you, your all time teammate?
Molica Anderson: [00:54:13] Um, Caroline Lowe from American Barbecue.
Tulsa: [00:54:16] What's a book, podcast, or TV show recommendation?
Molica Anderson: [00:54:20] Um, the NPR health one. I know it's boring.
Luisa: [00:54:25] Your favorite tournament?
Favorite tournament, uh, Leiout. Reigning champion right here. It's still Leiout.
Tulsa: [00:54:33] If you can only have one throw, what throw do you pick?
Molica Anderson: [00:54:36] Oh, my IO flick. And also I think that's the only throw I can do anymore.
Luisa: [00:54:42] play you've ever made?
Molica Anderson: [00:54:44] Favorite play. Oh, this one's on a picture series two. And it was like, regionals, we're playing Classy. And I think I got a D over two players, like one male, one female, and the whole series is there. So it's like us three going up and me grabbing in the air. Yeah, it's, it's sweet play. And I was like, oh, someone got a picture of me. Yeah.
Tulsa: [00:55:04] That's great. I feel like that's so rare.
Okay. Pick one. Burpees, pushups, or pull-ups.
Molica Anderson: [00:55:11] Ooh. I am known for getting into push-up competitions after having a couple of drinks in me. So I got to say pushups. Yeah.
Luisa: [00:55:19] Favorite food?
Favorite food. So my mom is Cambodian and she makes these amazingMolica Anderson: [00:55:26] like lettuce wraps. It's like this rice tapioca, weave noodles inside, a bok choy leaf or like a colored green leaf with little meat and veggies. And you dip in this fish vinegar sauce. It's called, it's called Banh Hoi. And it's so, so good.
Tulsa: [00:55:39] Who's someone you're grateful for?
Molica Anderson: [00:55:42] Um, definitely my mom, she's like a refugee, like came over during the communist takeover at Cambodia and she is the most energetic, most likable, charismatic, optimistic, silver-lining person I know. And she like went through a horrible, like communist takeover and was a refugee. Came to the country. Didn't know, didn't have any money, didn't know the language and still like thrive. And is like the most positive, giving human being ever.
Luisa: [00:56:07] Who's the best sideline presence?
Molica Anderson: [00:56:09] Oh, my gosh. Um, Lucas Dallman is just like on another level. I don't understand how he can be so loud. Anyone that's played on a team with him or against him knows that was that. And so much heart, like he must have grown up watching every sports movie and the rehearsing the big coach speeches after every movie that, that guy is just something else.
Tulsa: [00:56:32] What's your favorite non ultimate hobby?
Molica Anderson: [00:56:35] Surfing. I love surfing so much.
Luisa: [00:56:39] What's the most embarrassing fashion trend you've ever worn?
Molica Anderson: [00:56:43] Oh My goodness. Okay. Well, Uggs were a swim thing before, like, you know, the whole miniskirt Ugg thing. So I always wear Uggs cause that's what swimmers wore during swim meet. So I feel like I wasn't wearing cause it was a trend, it was just very functional.
Luisa: [00:56:57] I used to swim, right before high school, I swam for like eight years and I honestly forgot that that's what people did. Everybody wore Ugg boots.
Molica Anderson: [00:57:04] Yeah. You see kids in Speedos and Ugg boots or like the parka? The parkas, like swimsuit. Uggs, I was just the constant look.
Tulsa: [00:57:14] Okay. Last question. What's the best compliment you've received?
Molica Anderson: [00:57:18] Oh, That's compliment. I've received is.
Tulsa: [00:57:28] Stall.
Molica Anderson: [00:57:28] I'm nice. People give compliments, but you like forget. I was like, I think I cooked salmon really well the other night, but I was like I don't say that as the best thing,
Tulsa: [00:57:42] Uh,
Molica Anderson: [00:57:43] I guess.
Tulsa: [00:57:43] Yeah, we got you once, ended with the hardest question. Yeah.
Luisa: [00:57:48] Cool. Well, Molica, thank you so much for joining us on Share the Air.
Molica Anderson: [00:57:53] This was so fun. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. And this is so humbling to be asked to even do this so thanks for putting up with me for these last couple hours.
Tulsa: [00:58:02] Oh, hopefully we'll get to meet in person on the sideline or in New York or something.
Molica Anderson: [00:58:07] Yeah, definitely. So yeah, we should have happened last week. That's, that's on me.
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